anonymous: iron tail Jun 9, 2014 22:59:32 GMT 1
Isa: then we're looking at a horribly stupid set. Jun 9, 2014 23:45:06 GMT 1
magic9mushroom: I was referring to the Kangaskhan-esque Iron Tail/Curse/Roar/Substitute set, yes. Jun 11, 2014 2:59:25 GMT 1
anonymous: It's not THAT bad. It's useless v. Waters but that's only one step down from its norm of "mostly useless". No SE move for Raikou is annoying but he often runs HP Ice or Reflect and can't touch you anyway. Jun 11, 2014 4:24:46 GMT 1
anonymous: Not to mention you can still bring him in early-game to check Raikous, just Roar every time, and he'll never suspect a thing. Jun 11, 2014 4:26:29 GMT 1
Isa: Why run Substitute in the first place? Kangaskhan runs it to block status, but you're already immune to Thunder Wave as well as Toxic, and you wouldn't enjoy a fight with Exeggutor either, would you? edit: OK I forgot about Growl/Charm, but meh. Jun 11, 2014 10:40:49 GMT 1 *
ok u prolly know who i am: Ya sub on a Curser is 100% for Growl/Charm, ducking status is just a bonus. Also Iron Tail Steelix with Sub actually beats standard Egg. He can't Giga or Sleep Powder, and Psychic won't break the sub. Jun 11, 2014 14:08:53 GMT 1
magic9mushroom: How would you fight Raikou with Iron Tail Steelix? Roar whenever it's active, Sub when it comes back in and you don't have one, and Curse when it comes back in and you do have one, and whacking it with Iron Tail when it comes in and you're at +6? Jun 13, 2014 12:34:36 GMT 1
somebody: yup pretty much. I was just thinking of it as a temporary "get Raikou out of your face" kind of check, though. What you're proposing is once they've caught on and (presumably) you've already killed the waters, in which case, you're golden. Jun 13, 2014 16:44:33 GMT 1
.l.: isa smells Jun 15, 2014 20:19:37 GMT 1
isa smells : ^ Jun 15, 2014 20:43:40 GMT 1
Isa: PO blasted their Wiki that had good Jorgen-written analyses. Here's an old saving link: Jul 13, 2014 18:59:51 GMT 1
Isa: Despite dead, still gonna try: How legit would Snorlax with HP Bug be in Celebi-legal OU? Obviously cripples Celebi heavily, while still dealing decent damage to Tyranitar. Completely shut down by Gengar though, but Pursuit can help. Jul 18, 2014 0:45:13 GMT 1
Jorg: How much does HP Bug do? Is it a 2HKO? Jul 18, 2014 7:45:24 GMT 1
Jorg: Regardless, you'd have to be pretty desperate to pull a stunt like that. It really wouldn't be worth it. Jul 18, 2014 7:45:56 GMT 1
Isa: Snorlax Hidden Power Bug vs. Celebi: 217-256 (53.8 - 63.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery[br] Jul 18, 2014 8:33:29 GMT 1
Isa: I dunno I rarely find myself using Earthquake, figured a change might be cool. Jul 18, 2014 8:36:02 GMT 1
Isa: Due to the lack of a player base, GSC isn't going to be featured in the next POCL - rest in peace, old gens. Jul 21, 2014 19:54:40 GMT 1
jorg: :( Jul 23, 2014 1:32:26 GMT 1
Isa at work: I do not think it needs to be said but I am incredibly disappointed with the decision. I will try to host a GSC tour on PO and see what happens... Jul 23, 2014 9:00:09 GMT 1
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